Tulevat 4K UHD julkaisut

Keskustelu osiossa 'Blu-ray & UHD -leffat' , aloittajana sokka, 19.11.2016.

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    Luulis että studioilla olis edes joitain haluja korjailla noita printtejä vaikka niin että leikkaamaton olisi mahdollista katsoa vaikka extrana. Youtubesta löytyy jonkun parantelemat pari kohtausta osasta 5

     
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    And that brings me to my fourth point—and to the only other basis we have for comparison here—which is the fact that Paramount has compressed this film, which is nearly three hours in length, onto a dual-layered 66GB disc. That results in an average video data rate of about 46 Mbps and a file size of 53.4GB. Meanwhile, on all of their own Sergio Leone 4K Ultra HD releases (A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly), Kino Lorber Studio Classics has taken advantage of triple-layered 100GB discs. The result of that choice amounts to video data rates that are much higher (at 80, 85, and 60 Mbps respectively). What’s more, the 4K Digital version of this film now available for download on Kaleidescape has a file size of 86.8 GB!

    So by choosing to use a 66GB disc instead of 100GB, Paramount Home Entertainment probably saved themselves some money in replication costs. But they certainly compromised the image quality, and unnecessarily so. Now I haven’t watched the Kaleidescape version yet to compare the two 4K presentations, and at this point I’m almost reluctant to do so for fear that it’ll prove too irritating. But my suspicion is that the K-Scape presentation features very light and organic grain that actually looks like grain, along with slightly better fine image detail and greater dimensionality. You simply can’t take a 4K image file and compress it by 30% and expect no harm to be done to the image. I mean, come on. What’s the point of restoring the Sistine Chapel ceiling if you’re just going to squeeze it onto a postcard?

    The frustrating thing is that this 4K image is still good looking on the whole—certainly very watchable once you get used to it—and it offers much to recommend it over the previous Blu-ray. But I would love to see what Paramount’s raw 4K scan looked like prior to the noise reduction. And I would really love to see what this image looks like encoded for a 100GB disc, instead of 66GB. I suspect the differences would be revealing.

    [UPDATE: I’ve now compared the 4K disc to the Kaleidescape presentation. The larger file size and higher video data rate on the K-Scape download definitely makes the difference between the film’s grain structure looking natural and organic instead of like vague digital compression artifacting as it appears on the disc. Fine detail appears just a tad more refined and overall dimensionality is improved as well. Bottom line: I really wish this film had been released on a 100GB disc. If I were to grade the Kaleidescape video image, I’d give it an A- compared to the 4K UHD’s B grade on disc.]

    Melko pahaltahan tuo kuulostaa. Siis siinä mielessä, että on olemassa isommalla filellä oleva versio ja että siinä on parempi kuva. 86,8 GB:tä vastaan 53,4 GB:tä sehän on yli 50% korkeammalla bittivirralla kolme tuntisessa silmäkarkki leffassa?
    En kerta kaikkiaan ymmärrä tuota ratkaisua.

    Laitan tämän taas samaan kategoriaan kuin Abyss ja Aliens. En osta kuin jollain 11€ tarjouksesta ja vasta kun olen odottanut tarpeeksi pitkään varmistaakseni, että Remastered Edition ei ole heti huomenna tulossa.
     
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    En näe syytä miksei tätäkin voisi hankkia, joskin bluray versio todennäköisesti minulle riittää.

    Ehkä parasta tässä on kuitenkin se, että ehkä tämä aloittaa trendin, koska kaikista filmille kuvatuista TV-sarjoista voidaan tehdä 4K-siirrot.
    Miksei vaikka Deep Space Nine tai Voyager? Miksi turhaan haikaillaan blurayden perään, kun voitaisiin hypätä sen vaiheen yli ja siirtyä suoraan 4K-aikaan? Toki CGI-olisi upscale (ja olisihan se sitä HD:näkin), mutta kyllä minä sen kanssa pystyisin elämään.
     
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    Ja tuskin tulee tulevaisuudessakaan muuttumaan.
    Lähinnä kyselen, että mihin tämä liittyy?
     
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    Ottaen kuitenkin huomioon, kuinka paljon pitempään tavallinen blu-ray on ollut markkinoilla ja kuinka paljon laajempi tarjonta sillä on, niin 4K myy siihen nähden oikein hyvin.
     
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    Kai ne julkaisijat katsoo, että kannattaako tehdä 4k, jos myynti jää pienehköksi. Ja tietysti yksi syy siihen, että julkaisevat mieluummin niitä 30-50€ keräilijöille suunnattuja limited editioneja joissa isommat katteet.
     
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    StudioCanal is preparing 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray releases of Terence Young's Red Sun (1971), starring Charles Bronson, Toshirô Mifune, Alain Delon, Ursula Andress, and Capucine. The two releases are scheduled to arrive on the market on July 29.

    Description: Billed as the first East meets West Western, and directed by Terence Young, RED SUN is based on a true story from the American Wild West of 1870.

    When outlaw Link (Charles Bronson) is betrayed by his gang during a train robbery, he is forced by the Japanese Ambassador to help regain a priceless sword stolen by Link's double-crossing partner Gauche (Alain Delon). Link and the Ambassador's bodyguard, Kuroda (Toshiro Mifune), travel the West in pursuit of Gauche, attempting to lure him out by taking his girlfriend (Ursula Andress) as hostage. Although Kuroda plans to kill Gauche straight away, Link needs him alive to find the loot from their last robbery. Joined in an uneasy alliance, they have only seven days to find Gauche or Kuroda must follow his samurai code of honour and die by his own sword.


    Special Features and Techncial Specs:

    NEW Interview with Steven Okazaki
    • On the set of Red Sun - Extract from Pour le cinéma (Director: Pierre Mignot © INA – 1971)
    • Original Trailer
    • Four collectible cards
    • Optional English SDH subtitles for the main feature

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    Kino Lorber are preparing a 4K Blu-ray release of Antonio Margheriti's Cannibal Apocalypse (1980), starring John Saxon, Elizabeth Turner, Giovanni Lombardo Radice, Cinzia De Carolis, and Ramiro Oliveros. The release is scheduled to arrive on the market on July 16.

    Description: The horrors of war take on a whole new meaning for Vietnam vet Norman Hopper (John Saxon, Queen of Blood, Nightmare Beach), whose quiet domestic life in Atlanta is shattered by the return of his war buddy Charlie (Giovanni Lombardo Radice, House on the Edge of the Park), a combat veteran who dredges up terrifying flashbacks of flesh eating and bloodshed in the war-torn jungles. Now on the run from the law after taking a bite out of an unwilling victim, Charlie begs Norman to help him get out of town with another fellow veteran, Tom (Tony King, Report to the Commissioner, The Raiders of Atlantis). Soon the ragtag team of cannibals are fighting for their lives, spreading a deadly contagion through the city before heading into the sewers for a gut-wrenching climax no one will soon forget.

    One of the most infamous Italian horror films of all time, Cannibal Apocalypse is presented here, unrated and uncut. Upon its release, the film was heavily censored in many countries where it played under such titles as Cannibals in the Streets and Invasion of the Flesh Hunters. Directed by cult filmmaker Antonio Margheriti (The Long Hair of Death, Seven Deaths in the Cat's Eye), Cannibal Apocalypse is not for the faint of heart or those with full stomachs!


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    DISC ONE - 4K BLU-RAY

    • 2020 UHD SDR Master by StudioCanal – From a 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative
    • Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
    • 5.1 Surround and Lossless 2.0 Mono Audio
    Optional English Subtitles

    DISC TWO - BLU-RAY

    • 2020 HD Master by StudioCanal – From a 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative
    • Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
    • Cannibal Apocalypse Redux: Documentry with Actors John Saxon and Giovanni Lombardo Radice, and Director Antonio Margheriti (54:11)
    • Cannibal King: Interview with Actor Tony King (10:01)
    • Apocalypse in the Streets: A Video Tour of Filming Locations (6:40)
    • Alternate U.S. Opening Sequence (8:16)
    • European Theatrical Trailer (2:33)
    • Japanese Teaser (0:38)
    • 5.1 Surround and Lossless 2.0 Mono Audio
    • Optional English Subtitles
    • Limited Edition Reversible Art and O-Card Slipcase

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